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Post by stacy (FINALLY back!) on Apr 27, 2009 2:03:49 GMT -5
Considering the situation I am currently going through with my son, I was wondering what your views were on vigilante justice. Just curious as to what you all feel about people who are victims taking the law into their own hands when the justice system fails them. Sound off....
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Post by NewMan™ on Apr 27, 2009 11:27:59 GMT -5
Do we really want that?
It is dangerous to allow people to get revenge on their own, if it comes to such a need then it seems like the laws must have failed and as a country, we need to find out why.
Our courts will not allow it as an excuse, I know the bible says "an eye for an eye" but it also says to turn the other cheek.
however, if it's in the case of self defense then it's justified, we have a right to protect ourselves, not get revenge. So it would be on a "case to case basis" if it's justice or revenge.
In your case be careful, you are going against people who have friends in higher places then you do and it, in the end, becomes your word against theirs. The media might not care now but if you get revenge then you may make the papers for all the wrong reasons. Remember the case last year of the Mom who created an account on myspace just to mess with the head of her daughter's ex-best friend? She pretended to be a boy, got the girl's hopes up and dumped her in fashion. The girl who she was "messing with" took it seriously and committed suicide. All for what?
Make sure you always protect your son's rights, keep him safe, but do not do any harm to the other people because in the end, it will only hurt your cause. When people do finally see the truth, you want to be seen as someone who didn't stoop to their level.
One day this idiot will find someone new to threaten, then you and your Son can get back to a normal life. However, this kid's family will always have to deal with him and his anger issues till they send him for professional help. It's not hard to see jail in the kids future even from this age. Teach your son that what this kid is doing is because he doesn't feel good about himself unless he is picking on someone else, it's his way of trying to make himself look better. Tell your son that the kid doesn't fool anyone and this kid will never feel good about himself because in the end, he really doesn't like himself.
I still think the answer to your problem with these clowns is a U-Haul and a new address.. For whatever reason, they seem to run the town and anyone not on their Christmas card list will spend everyday looking over their shoulders and crying to a law that apparently is in their pocket.
Best of luck.
Daniel
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Post by Jamie~poetshare.forumotion.com on Apr 27, 2009 22:59:49 GMT -5
Vigilante justice isn't justice at all. Justice is measured and tries to take all of the facts into account to arrive at a measured decision. Vigilantism seeks to right a perceived wrong by extreme means without the ability to know all facts in a case. It's easy to get caught up in the appeal of some kind of satisfaction from such actions, but it tends to be a short-lived satisfaction that sometimes results in catastrophic backfire. Even when we are in the right and have been grievously wronged, vigilantism doesn't address the underlying causes of the problems we face--just the immediate results. I can certainly understand the appeal in your situation, but Daniel makes several salient points. This kid is gonna get his eventually and probably in prison, from the sound of it. And I sincerely doubt that you would want your son to live in a land of anarchy, where no one is safe anywhere. And that's what vigilantism leads to. I would most certainly do everything in my power to keep my son safe, though. It's an awful lesson he's had to learn about people this early in life.  |
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Post by polonius on Apr 27, 2009 23:24:03 GMT -5
Call it revenge. Revenge is poetic justice. The justice system is based on wealth and political strength to a large degree, though insurance companies and concerns about public order mean that a lot of criminals are punished. But if you do find the only recourse is revenge, keep the details to yourself, and don't get caught. There won't be any justice for you from within the system, only application of the law.
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